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Post by Darkwarrior on Nov 5, 2005 18:55:31 GMT -5
I suppose it could be seen that way, but it depends on how you veiw Eva and Sparda's relationship.
It could equally have been unromantic, most relationships are marriages are XD
I don't mind if you want to check them out, but you have been warned ^-^
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Post by Aisu Youkai on Nov 6, 2005 22:55:36 GMT -5
Somehow I'd love to believe Eva and Sparda were happy... come on, don't be so pestimistic! Besides... it's not real, only a video game.  Aw, all of your work is good. Even your romance! |
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Post by Darkwarrior on Nov 7, 2005 12:35:34 GMT -5
XD
I'm not being pessimistic, it's just the way I see Eva and Sparda's relationship. I don't see it as romantic, sorry. Maybe one day I'll write something about it by way of an explaination.
Thank you XD
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Post by Aisu Youkai on Nov 7, 2005 12:41:05 GMT -5
It doesn't have to be romantic...  Just... happy. Rather, not horrible. I go with the two ending up together even with Eva knowing Sparda is a demon, but she still loves him even if it makes things difficult and dangerous. *Shrugs* Yea... I've always thought of writing something too.... but... yea, whatever... not gonna happen at this rate. Speaking of writing... in about a week you should have the next chapter to SO to beta. I'm *so* close to finishing it. Just the battle with Cerb and brief chat with Sares. Yay. |
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Post by Darkwarrior on Nov 7, 2005 12:42:54 GMT -5
It's about time XD
No, it's not horrible, just not particularly romantic. I never believed Sparda was horrible XD
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Post by Aisu Youkai on Nov 7, 2005 12:46:27 GMT -5
Hehe. Yea, I know... >.<!
Right... that's about where I'd go with it then. And of course Sparda isn't horrible... didn't mean that... Just sounded like maybe they were a fighting couple... none of that... just a sad love story... you know, like in the movies about war... XD
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Post by Darkwarrior on Nov 7, 2005 12:53:51 GMT -5
I have a strange kind of old fashioned view of their relationship. Like the reasons people used to get married a long time ago.
I think this is because I'm still working out when they were supposed to have got married. The manga gives the impression that the twins are a darn site older than 18 XD
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Post by Aisu Youkai on Nov 7, 2005 13:01:00 GMT -5
Hmm... I see. I never thought of it that way... guess I'm a sap. >.<!
Not really... not in my opinion anyway. I think Sparda lived for thousands of years before finding a human wife and then had the twins. Sometimes I wonder if maybe the Earth is AU too... more like Midgar then an American city. *Shrugs* But I just try not to think about it too much. XD
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Post by Darkwarrior on Nov 7, 2005 13:08:44 GMT -5
It's just the way the Manga words things, it could easily be interpreted either way, though I do think it leans more to the 'stuff happened a long time ago' direction. The problem I have with this of course, is the way Dante ages through the games so that would be inconsistant with that theory. *sits back at the drawingboard for the millionth time to look at everything again*
You could be right about that one. Well, it is really as we don't have demons popping up like daisies all over the place.
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Post by Aisu Youkai on Nov 7, 2005 17:42:27 GMT -5
Well... I kinda got the impression that he lived for about 2000 years then settled down then disappeared... I'd be able to support it if I could actually point and stuff... as I'm sure you could to... but, yea... We could debate all day on that one, but hell if we know what the creator intended when he made up this world! >.<'
Yea... although I'd love to learn that there really is this sort of stuff out there somewhere... maybe not to that extensive of a point, but still... magic and creatures somewhere or at least at some point in time. *Shrugs* Maybe I'm just too fanatical.
Which makes me think of Persona... that's sort of how the main characters end up in the whole 'save the world' mess. They suddenly get sucked into the dark side of the city, the underground of the world and what it really consists of. I love it...
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Post by Devil Sunday on Nov 8, 2005 10:46:18 GMT -5
I have a strange kind of old fashioned view of their relationship. Like the reasons people used to get married a long time ago. I think this is because I'm still working out when they were supposed to have got married. The manga gives the impression that the twins are a darn site older than 18 XD Interesting....I think I understand what you mean. About their relationship. I too, like Celena like romances and I'm a sap, believing that they had a good relationship....aw man, I think perhaps you might be right although speculative in Sparda/Eva ....that it's the sort of marriage that was "arranged." Very old fashioned. If arranged, dont you think they loved each other a bit? In the American comic, it said that Sparda lusted after a human woman, Eva. Lust and love are two different things I suppose. |
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Post by Aisu Youkai on Nov 8, 2005 17:07:33 GMT -5
Great... now I have all kinds of ideas of their relationship running through my head. XD
It could be any numbers of ways... and many number of combinations at the same time. Wow... now I need to write a few speculatives out. XD
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Post by Darkwarrior on Nov 9, 2005 9:01:45 GMT -5
Is that a comic that is American in origin? If it is then it's not canon anyway, as the American comics aren't accepted as such.
It's a good point, as I wasn't particularly thinking of an arranged marriage, that would involve two sets of parents and Sparda's parents probably wouldn't have approved the match XD I was thinking more along the lines of Sparda choosing Eva because she was healthy, looked like she would provide him with sons and still had all her own teeth kind of thing XD I have this strange notion that even though Sparda 'woke up to justice' so to speak, regardless, he was still a demon and I don't think centuries of habit and a certain way of thinking are going to change that radically overnight.
If I suddenly started campaigning for Lemmings and married one (not a great analogy, but you get the picture :]), even though I'd be on their side, I wouldn't start thinking like a lemming, my basic personality would still be the same and everything I've always been as a person would still be there.
I hope that makes some sort of strange sense.
They could have developed an affection for each other anyway, lots of people in similar situations probably did, so I wouldn't write love out of it completely. I'm not against the idea of them caring for each other, honestly!
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Post by Devil Sunday on Nov 9, 2005 10:06:27 GMT -5
Is that a comic that is American in origin? If it is then it's not canon anyway, as the American comics aren't accepted as such. Oh yeah, you're right. It's american, so no, it's not canon. Plus, its just a re-do of the dmc1 game, so yeah it's not canon.  I see what you mean. Thanks for explaining it. I wish capcom would embellish more on the side of what "demons" are like. I mean, I have a different idea than you, although I like the "arranged" marriage kind of thing...sort of. Lots of people think that Sparda wouldn't have been able to have parents since he was born devil. Like Mundus. The manga itself by Japanese creators have already brought in some really cool back storyline so I hope we will learn more. The lemmings idea is interesting, though yea, strange. lol. But i do see your point. Since humans in general, on a whole are followers, or sheeps. This is from reading history and what mankind, us, as a species does. And it only takes one person to try and change the direction (which is why Jesus, Buddha, etc were different...ok, I dont wanna get into religion here.. hehehe...but you get my meaning) Celena, you should! I would love to read a few of your drabbles on the S/E liason. Since you are a sap for good, happy ending romances like me, I'd really enjoy reading a few of your snippets. |
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Post by Aisu Youkai on Nov 9, 2005 11:34:53 GMT -5
Eep! I have to write now? Uh-oh. XD
I actually stay away from romance as steadfastly as Rikku... because I suck at it. Quite frankly I don't like it even though I know I really do and quite truthfully I don't have the experience to write out that crap for anything.
Rikku, I still go with the pretty modern idea instead... or if not, perhaps he somehow gave her immotality with himself so long as he lived? Who knows... but about him 'waking up to justice' my idea, based from reading the manga, is that for one his notion of suddenly switching sides probably didn't happen over night and more importantly, two when he did so it sounded to me like he wanted to know what it was like to be human. To feel the emotions and feelings that humans do, whereas (the way I view many lower level demons, aka non-fallen angels) demons are animalistic in nature, killing and inflicting pain/torture on instinct rather than actual pleasure (even if it IS pleasurable for them, it would only be because that's all they know or just simply how their "species" are).
Wow... I could talk all day about how I view demons; practically write a novel on my own personal demonology! >.<' But, I don't think that's necessary (or practical) right now. The point of all that crap is that I see Sparda for some reason deciding he wants to (per se) think before he acts; feel the emotions that rule human governering and be capable of making decisions for the same and/or similar reasons humans do.
Wow... this has also turned into quite a discussion. Very interesting...!
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Just... happy. Rather, not horrible. I go with the two ending up together even with Eva knowing Sparda is a demon, but she still loves him even if it makes things difficult and dangerous. *Shrugs*
